Actually: Dolly does not have braces
Moonraker is a 1979 spy film and the eleventh movie in the James Bond franchise. It features Roger Moore as James Bond and is the fourth time he played the role in the series. In it, James Bond investigates the theft of a space shuttle which leads him to several locations. From California, to Venice, Rio de Janeiro, the Amazon rainforest, and eventually to outer space to ultimately prevent a plot to wipe out the world’s population in an attempt to recreate humanity with a master race.
It also features the actress, Blanche Ravalec playing “Dolly”, and the star of this Mandela Effect. She is the love interest of “Jaws” (played by Richard Kiel), a tall and burly metal-teethed protagonist and villain in the movie.
Many people recall Dolly having braces, when it fact she does not. The image above is a screenshot of the following YouTube video produced by ROMTHIRTY, a visual effects artist:
It does a pretty good job recreating what some people thought they remembered about the scene and Dolly, although some remember even bigger braces according to many of the comments on the video. In reality, she does not have braces at all, as shown in the following media:
There has also been other reports of changes as well besides the braces. Some remember her with less cleavage (less sexualized), having thicker black-framed glasses, or a scene where her braces get stuck in Jaws’ teeth when they kiss. All of these are a pretty good clues at what may be happening here.
James Bond fans seem pretty split on this. A Twitter poll from M16 (a popular James Bond fan site), revealed that 47% of respondents chose “Braces” when asked “What factor first attracted Jaws to Dolly in Moonraker (at first sight)?”. They later wrote an article on the result and their thoughts on the Mandela Effect, and concluding with, “MI6 can confirm that no change has been made to the film. The actress who played Dolly, Blanche Ravalec, did not wear braces in the film. This has been corroborated by others on the production as well as original still photography taken on set.”.
Recently, in a text conversation with Laurent Perriot, Blanche stated that she did not wear braces in the movie.
Translated as:
Hello Laurent,
I’m in the studio…
No, Dolly never had braces. It was never even a question.
Happy holidays!!!
Kisses
Blanche
Many have claimed she had to have braces based on semi-parody of the scene above in a commercial where Richard Kiel (Jaws) meets a cashier with braces:
Substantial examinations have taken place with the footage of the film, and in one case, Barrie Reader, claims that the film has been altered in some way. Although he draws this conclusion, many criticized his conclusion, including myself. Many of the details he has pointed out could be the result of compression artifacts, lighting, optical illusions, clustering illusions, or the fact that we are talking about a 35mm analog film (that was subsequently blown up to 70mm) shot on a Panavision Panaflex. Analog films are prone to dust, scratches, blotches, laboratory (developing) errors, and general graininess. Many of these film issues would have attempted to be corrected on the DVD/Blue-ray releases, perhaps even through automatic, error-prone methods (denoising). The conclusion appears to be an example of confirmation bias more than anything.
The origin of this Mandela Effect seems to be quite old, with one poster (Matti Lamprhey) all the way back in 1999 asking if they were misremembering this detail about the film. This instance appears to be the earliest (recorded) example of the effect.
Another very old example exists on the oldest 007 fan site, Universal Exports, which states “The complete opposite of Jaws, Dolly is a short blond girl with pigtails, glasses and braces.”. This instance is even stranger as the image they used clearly shows no braces.
My Experiences
I am not affected by this Mandela Effect. Even though briefly going through a Bond phase as a teenager when the Nintendo 64 game, GoldenEye was a huge thing, I never managed to watch Moonraker back in the VHS-era. My memories of the movie are much more recent, and without the braces.
Possible Explanations
There’s no denying the prevalence of this belief. It seems to be a very common Mandela Effect, peppered throughout the internet through articles, descriptions, message boards, and as far back as 1999; although I doubt that is the oldest instance of this belief. What could possibly be happening here?
I think stereotypes are playing a big a big role here. People see a nerdy-looking girl with glasses and pigtails. What else do nerdy girls have? Braces. One commenter remarks, “I remember huge braces, the ones that like Jan wears In the Brady Bunch Movie”. Some other commenters have also stated they remember her being less sexualized, and having thick black-framed glasses. More things that fit into the “nerdy girl” stereotype. This is a possible confabulation with nerdy stereotypes common in media.
It also just makes sense. The scene where Dolly and Jaws meet. Jaws smiling, opening his mouth, revealing his grizzly cog-like metallic teeth, then Dolly following suit, revealing her own metal augmentation. Love at first sight based on their common metallic dentistry! The order is important here though. Jaws smiles at her first. Jaws likes her before even seeing her teeth. This is because she is an attractive female, not because she has braces. It would be an awesome explanation at their common attraction though.
The age and quality of the film may also play a role. Many watched this film originally on grainy VHS tapes or fuzzy tube televisions. It’s not possible to see every minute detail. We fill in those details with our own imagination, possibly to the detriment of reality.
Some may be confusing the scene with the Finnish commercial parody, although, I would guess this is not likely as it would be a very select subset of people that saw this before already having the belief that Dolly had braces.
Additional Links/Sources
- Altered Moonraker Braces Smile Scene (YouTube)
- Unaltered Moonraker Smile Scene (YouTube)
- “Richard Kiel ,tv commercial for Sampo Mini Visa Card” (YouTube)
- “Dolly’s Braces” (Examination by Barrie Reader)
- “Moonraker Dentistry” (Earliest Example?)
- “Moonraker – Dolly’s Braces” (Reddit)
- Technical Specifications (IMDB)
- Text Conversation with Blanche Ravalec (Twitter)
- “Dolly Never Wore Braces” (M16)
- M16 Dolly Poll (Twitter)
How stupid you are. You dont have any clues about mandela effect.
Yup it’s government agents from the future changing our past inside a computer simulation but they manage to get minor movie details and brand-names wrong once in a while.
i saw the movie she did have braces and they did kiss and get stuck !
Mandela effect means that everything is changed. So of course you’re not going to find ANY evidence of braces. Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect, because you sure don’t understand it. Oliver
Absolutely she had braces. 1000% positive
Yep it seems strange. He seems to find excuses to self delude himself into thinking things aren’t real, against realistic mass unmistakable eye witness evidence. The things he try to claim as causing everybody to see the same, or even one sane person, is a stretch. Better to look at what might be happening to cause it. He trusts the word of an actress in a rush, in passing, maybe trying to blow him off, is not credible.
I’ve heard of multiple people talking about alterations they know of. Also that the actress was wearing braces in one part of the film, and not in another (which is why I suspect the actress might be blowing off somebody who is just another nuisance in her just life asking about that, and supporting the studios present narrative of what it is). So, they have three choices, either add or subtract braces so it all looks the same, or leave it as is. It seems they might ha w dive both at different times. The present print, immediately I saw it, looked altered in the teeth.
I also thought I remembered some other things. I don’t know about the kissing, but I thought she was sitting alone with him on the ship as it was coming down, and remember her looking different there. Still don’t remember black rimmed glasses though, but in this industry, if a big wig wanted black rimmed glasses in certain market and not in other’s, big breast here scene, and more innocently dressed in other markets (I do not remember the former) and braces or more, they can get it done. Simply, they think they know better, despite how little rep or how much drugs or alcboloe they been doing, and you better go along with them. There is a very good sci-fi film in the day, where the producer had something against the director, and post edited and stuffed up the ending of a major budget feature film (as the study I’ve seen goes) you could expect sequels off of.
If that is the quality of debunking here.
The funny thing about Mandela effect’s are when you discover one especially in a movie. The scene or the famous quote no longer makes sense to the affected. Dolly had braces, because when they smile and realize they both have “metal teeth” and have something in common is what makes that scene make sense. Now it’s just awkward and weird. Another one is field of dreams. “If you build it they will come”. Baseball field is built and “they” 10+ dead baseball players and umpires come. “He will come”? The movie is about making “them” come to play which sparks the idea to sell tickets to watch and save the farm. His dad was just a perk not the main story line. So “He will come” makes no sense because it was “if you build it they will come”. There are many more examples, “Luke I am your father” this reality “No, I am your father”. And alternate realities is the closest thing that makes sense, because misremembering is possible when it comes to some not all M.E.’s especially spelling of products. But when I watched Sally struthers say ” you like me you really like me” and then today see ” you like me right now you like me” (exp. Makes zero sense) is just more proof something isn’t right and if you disagree or try and debunk M.E.’s just means this is your original reality and your movies make little sense sometimes.
I mentioned this in the “Possible Explanations” section. Jaws smiles first, before even seeing her teeth, meaning, he likes her before. If it was the opposite order, I would agree with you a little stronger. I still agree this would at least give a little realism as to her attraction to Jaws. It is weird and awkward. Also, just because something makes no sense, doesn’t make it wrong. I can point out tons of things in any given movie that doesn’t “make sense” that aren’t reported as Mandela Effects. Or is every silly thing in a movie suddenly a Mandela Effect?
Very good points. I still fundamentally disagree with your view that the whole theory of the Mandela Effect is wrong but lots of these guys aren’t using their heads when it comes to the details.
This one guy got really mad at me when I told him that movies are made in a chaotic and accident-prone manner that invites errors in the final product, he kept swearing that the CIA had a tight handle on every piece of media in the world and nothing would get by them by accident. I don’t know how anyone could believe this, most modern movies and TV shows just throw away major plot points and seem to forget their purpose towards the end. It gets even more blatant when you look into the production of hilariously bad movies like Plan 9 From Outer Space.
I don’t care for the Mandela Effect HOWEVER… This specific topic REALLY frustrates me! I watched the film with my Mum when I was a kid. When Dolly smiled for the first time SHE HAD BRACES & I smiled & felt happy for them both because they connected for that reason & they got stuck kissing! I have seen the new version & the scene doesn’t even make sense! Someone has clearly tried to confuse & create doubt for what reason, I don’t know. I do know however that without doubt she fDid have braces & the manipulation of the film & facts about the scene anger me a lot!!
They must have made a 2nd end. I KNOW she had braces. I cannt prove because I seen @ theater and do not have a original copy. BUT MANY movies make small changes in end. Some will attribute us to remembering this from possible other movies and memory flaw but NO, she had braces in theater original . Now I’m not saying this is a Mandela Effect , I’m just saying in original she had braces. There’s another movie that changes their ending ending VHS and it eludes me but that movie stated it on box as ” alternate ending”. Again, I know in original theater she had braces. God Bless
What reality are you coming from where Sally Struthers won an Academy Award? In this reality we only give those to good actors like Sally Fields and Marisa Tomei.
Sally Field is her name. Adding a “S” on the end of her surname is actually a Mandela Effect.
I think the important thing to remember is that even if there is some conspiracy-type explanation for some of these things (and I think there is almost definitely some weird influence on some of these), it doesn’t cover all of them, some of these cases just got stuck on the list by people who misunderstood the concept of the Mandela Effect and weren’t really paying attention in the first place.
In fact, the majority of famous movie quotes are misquoted on t-shirts and so on (which we see more times than we see the original movie) because snippets from long conversations don’t make sense out of context and have to be explained. We know that “No, I am your father” is the real quote because Luke said “You killed my father”, and Vader was responding to that, the other way doesn’t fit right.
Another common example is just fixing bad grammar, which is an accepted practice for when newspapers quote people, by the way. Everyone thinks the famous line in Cool Hand Luke is “what we’ve got here is a case of miscommunication” when the warden’s catch phrase is actually “what we’ve got here is failure to communicate”.
“What we’ve got here is failure to communicate” is directly quoted in the Guns n’ Roses song Civil War
Mark, that’s Sally Field not Struthers. One lf.many factual errors in your post. I enjoy exploring bizarre phenomena like this but if your post is the sort if thing the “effect” rests upon then it’s just good old unadulterated hogwash.
Sally Fields.
And yes it is, “you like me, you really like me” . I have a really, really good memory.
And your spot on with things not making sense. The entire comedic part of Moonraker was that she had braces.
I was huge Bond fan growing up in the 60s and 70s and I know for sure that Dolly had braces. And lookin at the scenes today they do not make any sense.
It is a trick, the original film that was produced and sold did not have Dolly with braces. The braces were then added to television and theatre versions to mess with you.All Mandela effects work similarly.The bandana in Karate kid was the rising sun on the old rental movie covers but not in the film(Demon mind trick) you don’t want to know the rest
You would think that something like that would be mentioned by those who produced the movie rather than insisting it never happened. It clearly did, though.
Michael, I do want to know the rest. I was born in 1970 and was a huge Bond film fan as a child. I saw Moonraker in the theater and then it was on HBO the summer in between my 7th and 8th grade school year. I had very crooked front teeth and was going to be getting braces so I was hyper aware of all people with braces. I KNOW for a fact that Dolly had braces because my friend Stacey and I would act out certain movie scenes and we got into the aluminum foil BOTH put it on our teeth and I braided my hair to be Dolly. I thought was pretty in the movie and she made me as an awkward teen feel a little bit better about having to get braces. No one will ever convince me that I am misremembering this. I don’t care what the articles say. I have noticed many other Mandela Effects too, but this one is one that I am 100000% sure of – Dolly did have braces in the movie version in the 1970s and on HBO in the early 80s. Very interested in the demon mind trick. I have noticed weird coincidences and such over recent years, and I keep coming back to THIS topic to see if it has changed back. I guess I wonder if this is a timeline thing. Like am I dead in my original timeline and now I’m in this fake and crazy one???? ugh, I know that I sound crazy here, but I KNOW Dolly had braces and that a lot of other of these Madela Effects are also true and the the world seemed very different and less crazy and frustrating a long time ago.
No she didn’t dipstick
She had braces. I haven’t seen that movie in decades but remember that silly scene. This isn’t the Mandela Effect. It’s called ‘the publicity stunt effect.’
Of all the Bond movies the best laugh-out-loud moment is when Jaws and Dolly realize metal mouths in common. Personally…when I realized the shift to this new universe my initial reaction was semi-panic, but I have adjusted to go with it because no-one is going back.
I agree that this I probably down to people’s own interpretations of what they were seeing rather than what they actually saw. The quality of display would at times force people to fill in the blanks and as you say come to their own “logical” conclusion of what they are seeing. It still is an amazing phenomena however but I think it speaks more to group thinking and human psychology than to parallel universes lol.
Please don’t tell me what i saw or make silly explanations for it when you were probably not even around at the time the movie was released. She definitely had braces. OK?
you mention “The quality of display” like seeing this scene on a small screen is the real explanation.Dude have you NOT EVER BEEN to a REAL MOVIE theater?? The screen is 50 feet tall and 100 feet wide. I saw this movie IN THE MOVIE THEATER IN THE 80S. THERE is NOT A CHANCE of any stupid azz “quality of display” in a damm movie THEATER. she had braces on the 50x 100 foot screen 40 years ago.
Uh-oh. Another ‘Mandela Effect’. You remember seeing the movie on the big screen in the ’80s, even though it came out in the ’70s.
Thank you. I too saw in a movie theater with my best friend. Bob. We both remember it exactly the same and we both laughed at the same scene. If she didn’t have braces there would have been no comedy and those James Bond movies were equal action and comedy
Ones like these stand out because they are more memorable given the context. I remember the joke of them both having metal mouths very vividly still, but I have to admit I that the memory is being erased the more time I spent in this universe. What a crazy world.
Sally Fields, not Sally Struthers, said “You like me. You really like me!”
Guess what… it’s Sally Field, now, not Fields.
I know, right?!
And she never said “you like me, you really like me” at the Oscars, now.
Yes she did, when she won for “Places in the Heart.”
These are glitches, shifts, anomalies, call it what you want, but they are real. I’ve found so many residual proofs from Mona Lisa on Friends (originally how we remembered her with a frown), to Cheers where “objects may be closer than they appear”…I find lots of residual proofs. You can find them in commercials, images, portraits, pictures, tattoos, lyrics, movies, cartoons, etc. Happy Hunting!
…Or was it? Omg, Mandela Effect strikes again! (Actually this is a good example of the so-called Effect being nothing more than the result of imperfect memory).
Stein (surname) Stein is a surname with different origins. It is a common German-Jewish name. The name derived from German ([ʃtaɪn]) means “stone” or “rock”, the Scottish name (/stiːn/; also Steen) a form of Steven.
imperfect memory?? nope.fail.try harder.
I KNEW the etymology of the surname “STEIN”. I READ THE BOOKS TO MY CHILDREN !
I read the books with a GERMAN accent FOR THIS REASON.das isht de berenSTEIN GERMAN bears ya gut frualein??
Don’t know the etymology of the word not name, stain.don’t know don’t care.NOT SURE IF IT’S GERMAN or english or russian or whtever. But I know IT WOULD NOT make me think OF talking in a German accnt. while reading to my children.its stein not stain.Stain is a noun not a surname.Stein has OTHER german associatios.aka beer STEIN.Stain HAS NO SUCH ASSOCIATIONS.
I came across the Berenstain Bears books when I was in grade 2 or 3, between 1968-1970, and the name was definitely Berenstain.
The authur of this article wasn’t even alive when this movie came out. And up till now new nothing of the ME. Millennials… smh.
Man, do you have a lot of time on your hands. Must be making money off this site, somehow. I would like to fast forward about 40 years when I can witness you mumbling and drooling about similar nonsense, but when people give you a pass and just call you demented.
I was tired of hearing about the Mandela Effect before I saw the “new” Jaws and Dolly scene from what was my FAVORITE childhood movie, “Moonraker”. I saw this movie with my Dad in 1979 in Miami, FL. It was during a trip I took with my Dad and it was a dad/son night out, dinner at a restaurant called “Lums” and the new James Bond movie. Sure, we all have holes in our memories, and our brain can make us believe we observed something we didn’t actually observe. But! I’ve seen Moonraker over 100 times and just like when I saw it at the theatre, the Jaws and Dolly scene is a really important scene, and it’s important Because of the ironic connection they have with each other with their respective metal mouths. Period. Dolly had braces, the scene is nonsensical without her braces. This one I did not forget, I’m 100% right on this one. So, what’s going on? Maybe Cern really did do something strange.
I have a question… is it POSSIBLE that when you saw the movie, you were thinking, “She really ought to have braces, the director missed an opportunity here that would have made sense and been funny!” and that thought – which was an imagination of her having braces – became a memory of her having braces?
They must have made a 2nd end. I KNOW she had braces. I cannt prove because I seen @ theater and do not have a original copy. BUT MANY movies make small changes in end. Some will attribute us to remembering this from possible other movies and memory flaw but NO, she had braces in theater original . Now I’m not saying this is a Mandela Effect , I’m just saying in original she had braces. There’s another movie that changes their ending ending VHS and it eludes me but that movie stated it on box as ” alternate ending”. Again, I know in original theater she had braces. God Bless
…..Exactly as Mark Starr comments on Dolly, it makes perfect sense for Dolly to have braces, in the build up scene, she slowly opens her mouth and the camera ZOOMS IN, meaning we are waiting for the suprise of the braces. They put this scene as a comedy stint, makes perfect sense. Often I come across silly explanations on why it isn’t a Mandela Effects, or just bad memory, it doesn’t fool me one bit. The zooming in shows the build up to revealing the braces. The author above for the article, you have to come up something better than your silly explanations.
….Exactly as Mark Starr comments on Dolly, it makes perfect sense for Dolly to have braces, in the build up scene, she slowly opens her mouth and the camera ZOOMS IN, meaning we are waiting for the suprise of the braces. They put this scene as a comedy stint, makes perfect sense. Often I come across silly explanations on why it isn’t a Mandela Effects, or just bad memory, it doesn’t fool me one bit. The zooming in shows the build up to revealing the braces. The author above for the article, you have to come up something better than your silly explanations.
I thought this one was due to a tv commercial for *something* in the 1980/90s?
I remember one where ‘Jaws’ has ‘Bond type guy’ trapped (tied up?) and is laughing above him, ‘bond’ nearly escapes the needlessly complicated trap, when ‘girl with pigtails’ sees escape attempt and does something to foil the escape. ‘Jaws’ looks at her confused why she’d help, and she smiled with braces up at jaws.
I think they moved to each other as it faded away from them while narrator talked about the product?
In the long version of it, i think you saw ‘jaws’ and ‘dolly’ out together doing some types of couples activities while the narrator talked about some product.
I remember seeing Moonraker in the movie theater when I was 8 years old. Jaws smiles at her and she smiles back with huge ugly braces. I remember laughing about this with my friends for weeks afterwards. In school and on the playground we’d compare this or that girl (who had braces) “Hey that girl looks like Jaw’s girlfriend!”. So skeptics aren’t asking me to believe this was a simple memory error. They are saying that I *and my friends* were all mistaken at the same time and all those long conversations about her ugly braces and comparing her to my classmates, making fun of girls (as 8 year old boys often do), yes that was all based on a false perception. At what point do we start to question such occurrences especially with all the residual effects.
Then there’s the Publishers Clearing house and Ed McMahon. There’s a Married with Children episode where Al Bundy reads a letter from the Publishers clearing house “I may owe Ed McMahon 2 million dollars?!?” Why would the writers make such an obvious error complete with laugh track if this was completely made up? Sorry but something is happening here and the fact that it doesn’t fit neatly into a labeled box doesn’t mean something incredible isn’t happening. And the main target appears to be… the Bible. How interesting and also predicted in Revelations.
I totally agree with you Remo I was young even I seen that movie and remember the braces. I also seem to remember most of all the Mandela effects but not all of them which is strange. Anyways I also believe that this is an attack on the bible as well. My question to you is what exactly were you referencing in revelation from the bible that this was foretold? I’ve thought about this too and there’s two different scriptures that I think could be referencing the Mandela effect. The first talks about God sending a great deception so powerful that even the elect would be fooled if possible and the other talks about the anti-christ coming and changing times or messing with time. What were you talking about? Thx
I think your explanation makes sense about people expecting her to have braces because it seems like the point of the scene, as well as a pig-tailed girl with glasses often having braces too. It’s easy to fill in the blanks. I’d imagine if the screenwriter is aware of this (if he lived to hear of it), that he’d probably want to slap his forehead and be like “gosh, why didn’t I think of braces! that’s perfect!” (Or casting director or whoever would have made the choice that would affect this scene in that way).
She DID have braces!
I remember seeing it in my youth and that the whole reason the scene exists and works – the connection between them – is because they both had metal teeth!!!
She smiled – then his face changed and relaxed and he smiled.
Without them it doesn’t work. They were def there!
Honestly, I remember Dolly with Braces too. But frankly? I saw this film the way people who have seen it in the 90s/early 00s saw it. On a crappy VHS or on local TV, mostly. Because Moonraker was routinely left out of Bond marathons and was considered one of the worst throughout the 90s. (Despite it’s success, it was extremely camp in a way the mid-late nights didn’t appreciate)
And my old degrading rental VHSes and terrible TV I am 90% sure made me do just that. ‘Oh, she’s nerdy. Her teeth are glowing fuzz with dark spots because of video degradation, it must be braces.’
Much like how Alien is a way scarier movie on VHS, where you never get to see how awful the costume looks at the end, as even then it’s so obscure and hidden it’s ‘scary and exciting.’
She DID have braces… I as well as most the others here know this 100% It was not a memory error or filling in the blank. THRE REALLY IS SOMETHING VERY STRANE AND EVEN FRIGHTENING GOING ON WITH M.E! Those of you that are making excuses just dont understand what the rest of us know with no uncertaintie! You have failed to explain this away to those affected.
*Facepalm* Of course she didn’t have braces in the film guy… the whole concept of the Mandela effect would require that to be true… but it wasn’t true to us. This is bizarre to me, because apparently, all of us who remember Berenstein also remember the braces, btw… isn’t that in itself rather peculiar… I’m sure it’s more comforting not to think so.
She DID have braces… I as well as most the others here know this 100% It was not a memory error or filling in the blank. THRE REALLY IS SOMETHING VERY STRANE AND EVEN FRIGHTENING GOING ON WITH M.E! Those of you that are making excuses just dont understand what the rest of us know with no uncertaintie!
No matter what I saw a mandella effect about this and before he even sayed what it was he paused the video and asks what happen now and I said he gets out of rubble and looks at girl she smiles at him with braces it tinkles in sun and tard obviously thinks she just like me I’m in love then they run off to go bang and he fucks her brains out killing her and says not agin ok that part was joke but for real guys she had braces
This “Mandela Effect” great disturbs me. Like others who have posted here, I was a child when I first watched Moonraker. It was a television broadcast. Sure, the quality wasn’t great back then, but if you think TV wasn’t clear enough to see details, you really are deluded.
In any case, Dolly had braces. It was a big deal being able to watch the movie with my family. We didn’t get to watch a lot of movies. I was aware of the Jaws character; he was kind of confusing to me because he was big and scary, but somehow he was oafish and silly. I remember that having an effect on me. When Dolly entered, I remember thinking she was very strong. I have absolutely no recollection of her large bust…I was a young boy and didn’t notice such things. I remember thinking that she was a little girl. And I remember thinking that Jaws would hurt her. But then, the smile. It was an absolute revelation and generated a physical reaction when we realized that they bonded over their shared metal mouths.
As other have said, it is the entire point of her character and the scene.
I have studied some neuro-science. I’m well aware of how memory works. I know that my memory can, and has been faulty, but this one isn’t a false memory. It isn’t predicated on prior knowledge or the need to “fill in gaps”. She had big braces, which in my experience were quite rare at that time. It was a mouth FULL of metal. Where I lived very few kids had them at that time.
When I first discovered this ME, it literally made me feel sick to my stomach. I have no idea what’s going on. But I do know, without a doubt, that Dolly had braces.
At what point in this article does the author “Debunk” Dolly having braces? Myself my family that I first watch this movie with as well as thousands of other people remember this vividly and appartently so does the website for the film. The entire point of the scene was that that had the cute connection jaws metal teeth and her braces it was love at first sight. I remember talking to my brother about the scene and joking about it.
Very stupid close minded article TBH.
Gotta weigh in here, since as a child my mother and father were friends with Dick Kiel, the 7’2” actor who played Jaws. Since he was a friend, we saw Moonraker in theatres at least three times.
Dolly had DEFINITELY braces, and post-production even added both a visual special effect “glint” off the braces. There was even a really stupid special foley effect (sound effect) that went along with the glint.
No question in my memory. None.
I saw the film in theaters. I remember braces. I might buy that they’d filmed without braces first, then someone thought of the braces joke and they added them, then re-edited the film with the other footage. But why deny it?
Of course she had braces, that was the whole point of the scene, i remember explaining the bracers joke it to my younger brother when we watched the movie on rental VHS back in the day.
and VHS wasn’t such bad quality in the day as you describe, maybe 30 year old VHS tapes have degraded but back in the day when they where fresh, the quality was really good and such a closeup of someone’s face would easily show the braces in full detail.
If you ask me the whole ME is a big psy-op to keep the clowns busy clowning.
Nothing ‘debunked’ here. If some people have switched over from some kind of alternative reality, then obviously those that haven’t won’t remember things the same!
I have no idea about the Mandela Effect or alternate realities. All I know is that when I first saw Moonraker as a kid, Dolly DID have braces, 100%, no question. That was the the gag when the camera zoomed in – how she and Jaws were polar opposites, but when she smiled, she had braces, so they had the ‘metal mouths’ in common. That was the whole point! Do you really think that I would have concocted that entire scenario based on a ‘mistake’? I remember it as clear day.
I also asked my brother: “What was the gag in Moonraker when Dolly smiled at Jaws and the camera zoomed on her face?”. He said “She had braces” and proceeded to explain it exactly as I did above. He was 100% sure about it. When I said that, supposedly, she didn’t, he couldn’t get his head around it, because he remembered the whole scene as clearly as I do, as well as why it was supposed to be funny. As it stands right now, there is no gag, but there absolutely 100% used to be.
Also, Nelson Mandela did die in prison. When I was at school in the 1980’s, we were taught a lot about apartheid and so Nelson Mandela was an oft referred-to figure. There was always the talk about him coming out of prison, but it never happened because he died.
This DID happen.
Can I explain it? No. But I KNOW these things happened, along with many other ‘false’ memories. And, anyone who knows me would tell you that I have a freakishly good memory for details about events, dates, etc. These things are not things I would get mixed up
I saw this at the cinema in the 80s and she did have braces. It looks like the film has been edited sometime afterwards.
I bet all versions before mid 1980s had braces and non after.
Which is why some people remember braces and some don’t, it depends which version you watched.
Same happens with Crocodile Dundee and the knife scene.
People with braces also have a bit of a protruding upper lip when they try to close their mouth over the added thickness of the metal on their teeth. You can see this subtle effect in the brief scene just prior to her smile. She clearly had braces, regardless of the appearance of no braces in subsequent releases of the film.
The schizoposting in the comments is too powerful.
I’m 57 years old and saw Moonraker on TV with my parents in 1981. We all remember braces and glasses. I spoke with a 63-year old friend who is a Bond fanatic, and she told me that Dolly ABSOLUTELY had braces and black-rimmed glasses. So, this agrees with all our memories. And the friend has been watching a Bond movie at least once a week for the past 40 years…
What a missed opportunity by the producers of Moonraker. I guess it’s what we all wanted to see, and just started believing it. The whole idea of her smiling, to reveal that she too had “metal” teeth would have been epic.
They obviously filmed the scene twice and put the braces version in only some batches of the films which went to cinemas. It was common for different versions of films, including versions which varied in length, to be distributed. It was a minor practical joke. I suspect that some suit at the studio saw the braces and said: “No, this is too much, even for a Roger Moore film”.
Read this from newspapers website.
Read em’ and weep.
Had to google this, as it was bugging me. I… (dramatic Shatner pause) could have sworn she did…
It’s just my aging brain messing up memories I guess.
Yep, saw it on the big screen. She had huge braces unlike the Youtube BS, and they kissed and got stuck but I remember that being when they were in the air. The movie had to have been altered for DVD and Blu Ray. Just another play by our wonderful Luciferians to screw with our minds.
I was a massive Bond fan. When this movie came out in 1979 I was 12 years old and saw the film several times in the theater…My friends and I loved the part when Dolly smiles at Jaws with her giant brace face smile…love at first sight. I haven’t seen the movie since the 1980’s but my memory is intact.
I was a massive Bond fan. When this movie came out in 1979 I was 12 years old and saw the film several times in the theater…My friends and I loved the part when Dolly smiles at Jaws with her giant brace face smile…love at first sight. I haven’t seen the movie since the 1980’s.
I’m positive all the comments had correct spelling and grammar when I read it last year.
Everything changed once CERN turned on the LHC. Everything we knew was warped slightly.
This and Berenstein are the only ones that make me 100% sure The Mandela Effect is real. I can explain away every other one, but those two are tied to deep childhood memories that are as real as this phone I am currently typing on. What is going on? Why is this happening? I’m not freaking out about it, but to deny this phenomenon is to deny reality. You don’t want it to be true. I understand that. I don’t want it to be true either. I really don’t. This isn’t just another conspiracy theory that desperate people want to be true by grasping at straws. This is real. We will probably never know why this is happening, but it is!
I’m not into the Mandela effect, not least because I’m not into popular culture. I don’t even recognise half the ME references let alone have a memory one way or the other.
But for three decades of my life, I was totally into bond movies. They were on the telly every public holiday in the 80s and 90s, let alone the cinema. In the 00s I watched them again round and round, on DVD. The originals: and DVD was a good quality medium believe or not. I’d start with Doctor No and watch the whole lot right up until the latest release, and then watch that at the cinema. Vintage Bond was almost the only thing I watched for a while, before I quit movies completely.
She had braces.
And can I just say this for the folks at the back: this article (and presumably this whole blog, although I didn’t check) is totally missing the point. it would not be creepy if the film was tampered with, that’s just business as usual the Ministry of Truth. It’s creepy because it wasn’t tampered with. It’s creepy because the actress says it never happened. That’s the whole point, it doesn’t “debunk” the ME, it’s what makes it so nuts.
I watched this scene for the first time in a YouTube video, and my mind is trying to picture her with braces when in fact she didn’t. Hell, when I’m trying to remember this scene, my mind is picturing her with braces and I just watched it like several minutes ago! So, I agree with the author! My mind wants to complete the image of her having braces, but because it “doesn’t” make sense in my mind, it wants to fix it. Our minds can be really annoying sometimes! But this is proof that isn’t some mandela effect, it really is just our mind. I never even seen this movie, and just watched this scene like 15 or so minutes ago! Even though I know she didn’t have braces, my mind is trying to add braces in the memory! Hopefully, this evidence can show that our minds sometimes just want things to fit. It sucks, but you have to accept this can happen! No need for complex explanations like timelines, or whatever. Occam’s Razor, the simplest solution is the usually the answer. In this case, our mind wants to complete an image to make sure it fits! The whole point of this scene was that Dolly didn’t have any, while Jaws did, hence the joke!
My Occam’s Razor 2 cents: Pairing a hulking 40 something ruthless assassin with a pigtail/braces wearing teen is guaranteed to raise some pedo red flags, even back in 1979, and the filmmakers had to know that. I bet they shot the scene both ways, which is probably a fairly common practice in Hollywood. Then they put the braces version out in theaters, and after catching deserved flack for the utter creepiness, they put the non-braces version out on home video (VHS and later DVD.) The scene only makes sense with the braces. It’s the whole point of the scene! No Mandela Effect!
Dolly had braces because that was the whole point of the scene. Jaws found somebody “like him” – with a metal mouth. Some arsehole film editor somewhere took it out for whatever reason, but it most definitely happened. I’m beginning to think the “Mandela effect” is nothing more than publicity stunts or thought experiments being run by the usual suspects.
I remember seeing this in the theater at 9. It was the best scene in the movie because the weird villain bonded with someone that shared something with him but was in most ways was his opposite. The whole audience laughed. My mom used it as an opportunity to talk to me about love and attraction. Time isn’t linear the way we perceive it. It can move in both directions.
I had the movie in VHS when I was a kid and watched it a dozen times, she had braces.